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jiggerjay · Feb 17, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

so we have to customise their armour and weapons.

why do we have to share our gold with them ? i can understand it with henchies but not with heros.

its a bit unfair tbh! who wants this changed ?

Arkantos · Feb 17, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

You share all drops/money with anything you party with. End of story, it's staying that way.

Faer · Feb 17, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

You aren't forced to customize anything. It's entirely possible to complete the campaign with the standard equipment. Not the optimal choice, but it is a possibility.

Besides, if ArenaNet killed the drop sharing with Heroes, there would be a lot more 4-man Heroway farming groups out there, including a 55-based group that could rape the entire Underworld and FoW without taking breaks.

max gladius · Feb 17, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08

i agree, sharing with heroes can suck and all.... but big picture is the facts he said, i would rather share then deal with the mass amounts of farmers there would be

/not signed

unless it is controled, they take away from actual drops, but not actual cash that falls... or let heros have armor and weapons based on ur unlocked things for pvp as their skills r based.

Markaedw · Feb 17, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

they can have their share of the loot, just let me customise the armor baseed on pvp unlocks

Skye Marin · Feb 17, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Before Heros, there were Henchmen and nobody made a peep about them getting their fair share of the loot.

With Heros, now you can customize and tailor them to whatever situation you're going to encounter. Max or near-max damage weapons are easy enough to come by in the normal course of playing, and runes/inscriptions are an option that Normal Henchmen have never opted to have.

If you're concered about the upkeep of Heros, just ask yourself. Is it really worth 500g for my paragon to have +10 armor to his chest? How about another 1k his legs and hands? If you don't think it's worth it, then don't buy it. Simple.

No matter how you slice it, Heros are better than Henches.

gameshoes3003 · Feb 17, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Heroes and Henchies are suppose to be like "live" players, so that's why the gold is split.
It's like splitting stuff with other players.

Knightsaber Sith · Feb 17, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49

/notsigned

It would be too easy to farm if you could take your heroes and still get all the loot

The5thSeraph · Feb 17, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Not in the slightest....

As members of the party they're entitled to their share of the loot.
I do rather wish they wouldn't necessitate my buying stuff for them from MY share... v_v; ... If each hero had a collection of aquired funds that could be used exclusively to upgrade their armour or whatnot... it'd be far better (though it couldn't account for specialist weapons and the like, so a line would have to be drawn somewhere)...
On the whole though it doesn't make too much difference in the end. I just play for longer to get more loot to deck them out better.

rohara · Feb 17, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

it is a bit irritating, seeing as they take a cut of the loot/gold but cba to buy themselves runes/insignias/weapons

but changing it would be disastrous.

Winterclaw · Feb 17, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

Besides, if ArenaNet killed the drop sharing with Heroes, there would be a lot more 4-man Heroway farming groups out there, including a 55-based group that could rape the entire Underworld and FoW without taking breaks.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, heroes absolutely stink the place up when it comes to maintained enchantments.

Curse You · Feb 17, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, heroes absolutely stink the place up when it comes to maintained enchantments.

Hold shift, click on the maintained enchantment. Now it is disabled. Select yourself, click on the enchantment on their bar, watch as they keep the enchantment on you.

Faer · Feb 18, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one, heroes absolutely stink the place up when it comes to maintained enchantments.

I'm going to have to tell you that my Heroes happen to use them just as well as I would. Don't know from experience what everyone else complains about, because I have never had a problem with my Heroes and maintained enchantments.

Enter Zone, Koss uses Mending on himself and keeps it there. Tahlkora uses Blessed Aura, Dunkoro uses Vital Blessing. I've tried every hero with every maintained enchantment I can think of, and if it was something useful for them to actually maintain, they maintained it.

Of course, if you don't have Heroes with half a brain, like I do, just use CY's suggestion.

Frazzy · Feb 18, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Dude heroes are better than 3/4 of the humans out there if you know how to play so why should you get more of an advantage if you use them. I'd just 4-Man UW all day long running 55 Tank.

Coloneh · Feb 18, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56

you people saying "they should get their share" dont understand the mechanics of heros. YOU have to buy everything for them. they dont use their money.

lishi · Feb 18, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you people saying "they should get their share" dont understand the mechanics of heros. YOU have to buy everything for them. they dont use their money.

i can equip them better then hencie for 2k.

Vlatro · Feb 20, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Hell no.

A prime example of greed and ignorance leading to stupidity. If we had to share with other players in a party but not heroes, then you are creating greater incentive for people to ignore party requests. People will start asking themselves, "Why take that guy, my hero will get me better drops". This can become very frustrating in areas like DoA, FoW, and UW, as people already tend to have certain preferences on who they bring and are there primarily for the better item and gold drops. More over this discrimination would have only a negative effect on those who don't own Nightfall, as they would be invited to fewer groups, and be unable to capitalize on the change themselves, having no access to heroes. Everyone complains about Anet prioritizing one campaign over the others, yet your willing to screw approximately 2 million players who all paid good money for their campaigns, all so you can get bigger gold drops.

Navaros · Feb 20, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

You shouldn't have to share anything, gold or drops, with Heroes or henchmen. This has always made the game a lot less fun.

Besides that they don't even ever pickup gold, so why should they be able to share it when they never contribute to picking it up?

Vinraith · Feb 20, 2007, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Extremely /notsigned

Much as I'm a continual advocate of the fact that people shouldn't be punished for not wanting to play with humans, neither should people be punished for doing so. Drop rate should be the same for you whether you're in a party of 8 real people or a party of heroes and henchies, lest the whole game (and the economy with it) go straight to hell.

Meat Axe · Feb 20, 2007, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Simple solution to this problem: don't buy them weapons. Give them a weapon drop that you would have sold to the merchant for 50g if you have to. Or give them some of the bonus items if you have access to them. Anyway, you're forgetting one very very good bonus you get for leveling up heroes: hero skill points. The skills you buy with hero skill points get added to your skill list as well. To me, the benefits of the heroes far outweighs the small portion of gold that they get a share in.